tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post2190237025539356451..comments2023-06-15T11:59:39.572-04:00Comments on DYVERS: Burn It to the Ground and Salt the Earth.Dyvershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-19866569427526853882014-03-28T23:24:06.086-04:002014-03-28T23:24:06.086-04:00There are other tricks out there, of course there ...There are other tricks out there, of course there are, I just like making things challenging. More fun for everyone involved!Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-84141378839507441812014-03-28T17:08:47.706-04:002014-03-28T17:08:47.706-04:00Right on.Right on.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-39273875791107444852014-03-28T16:05:28.488-04:002014-03-28T16:05:28.488-04:00I wouldn't necessarily do that because the pla...I wouldn't necessarily do that because the players were too powerful...or rather, I wouldn't do it to "take away their stuff". But if the campaign has become stale, a massive realignment - i.e. blowing it up and making huge, fundamental changes - is a great way to refresh it.Quasithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05147005081906046351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-70855640443125526702014-03-28T13:31:06.508-04:002014-03-28T13:31:06.508-04:00Honestly Barking Alien, your reasoning is correct,...Honestly Barking Alien, your reasoning is correct, and I would do a mea culpa if I was that master, but here we was talk of giving it a solution to the error made (except that restart with a new campaign) and I think that given by Charles is one of the tricks available. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09772329817644671667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-1248409767256643582014-03-28T13:24:49.497-04:002014-03-28T13:24:49.497-04:00I think the challenge is important because it keep...I think the challenge is important because it keeps the game fun. After all while the players may enjoy walking over the DM for a session or two it quickly loses its appeal. The challenge is where all the fun lies. Without a challenge the game grinds to a halt and stops being fun altogether. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-82628127207018351732014-03-28T13:20:41.970-04:002014-03-28T13:20:41.970-04:00I honestly think it's one of the best things y...I honestly think it's one of the best things you can do. It adds so much drama and tension. I love it when my players are looking at me with "that look" and they are thinking to themselves, "I can't believe he just did that! Fuck, you asshole!" I then feel like I'm doing my job.Jim Haltomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18027543630803308847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-14991692642682908592014-03-28T13:01:15.273-04:002014-03-28T13:01:15.273-04:00"What's the worst possible thing I can do..."What's the worst possible thing I can do to these people?"<br /><br />That's a maxim in the Akins household.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-31608963615358076382014-03-28T12:55:52.227-04:002014-03-28T12:55:52.227-04:00I missed a big one: Lois McMaster Bujold:
I have ...I missed a big one: Lois McMaster Bujold:<br /><br />I have a catchphrase to describe my plot-generation technique — "What's the worst possible thing I can do to these people?"Douglas Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04292678529266123501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-78368365909698507682014-03-28T12:53:51.779-04:002014-03-28T12:53:51.779-04:00While your point of view is of course valid, I loo...While your point of view is of course valid, I look at the "burn it, salt the earth" approach Charles is describing and see it as a recurring theme in a lot of stories and fiction that I recall fondly.<br /><br />Superman 2: he lost his powers and had to learn what it meant to just be human.<br />Thor (recent movie): he lost his powers and, waitaminute.<br /><br />Serenity (movie): the Douglas Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04292678529266123501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-71967608865643451512014-03-28T12:38:25.053-04:002014-03-28T12:38:25.053-04:00Ideally you don't mess up to begin with like A...Ideally you don't mess up to begin with like Allen says at the top, but when you do you push it till you have fun again like Jim says. <br /><br />Honestly I get called a lot because I tend find answers instead of just questions - even when they're sloppy. :)Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-14933249121328703612014-03-28T12:34:55.445-04:002014-03-28T12:34:55.445-04:00What they are driving at is that it's no longe...What they are driving at is that it's no longer fun for the DM. If that's the case, then the DM can get as crazy, extreme, challenging as all get out in order to make it fun, again. As the PCs get up there in levels and items, it gets harder and harder to throw anything challenging at them. So, if that means stripping things away, killing beloved NPCs and actually making things HARD Jim Haltomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18027543630803308847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-56594070254696561282014-03-28T12:14:30.408-04:002014-03-28T12:14:30.408-04:00Hmmm. Not my style at all.
Why is it GMs mess up...Hmmm. Not my style at all. <br /><br />Why is it GMs mess up, let the PCs get too powerful and then feel the need to teach the PCs a lesson by taking away their stuff. Stuff YOU gave them. STUFF you didn't handle a while ago. <br /><br />It's fine when a new GM does it but when someone with experience does it I facepalm. What exactly did you think was going to happen when your party Adam Dicksteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04840144928096089178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-33931796768358340182014-03-28T11:47:26.403-04:002014-03-28T11:47:26.403-04:00Fuck yes!Fuck yes!Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-39366770120198010132014-03-28T11:32:49.316-04:002014-03-28T11:32:49.316-04:00Good advice Charles!
Make them feel the same sensa...Good advice Charles!<br />Make them feel the same sensation Sherlock Holmes felt against Moriarty. His nemesis seemed always a step ahead. He always managed to escape his attempts to capture him, even if only by a hair.<br />Make sure that he has hooks very high and very powerful that will enable him to always have his back covered. That he has informants in unexpected positions of relief.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09772329817644671667noreply@blogger.com