tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post6496410174613014223..comments2023-06-15T11:59:39.572-04:00Comments on DYVERS: Wasting Time with YouDyvershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-30780801082597841652014-06-19T19:16:25.615-04:002014-06-19T19:16:25.615-04:00No worries about commenting on an older post Ian! ...No worries about commenting on an older post Ian! <br /><br />"I guess my complaint is Elves look lazy because we drag them out of Tolkien, where humans didn't make cranes and guns, and then criticize them for not using that time to build crap they don't need."<br /><br />Well said!Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-78299911197616204142014-06-19T15:22:14.381-04:002014-06-19T15:22:14.381-04:00Sorry about the comment on an older post.
I think...Sorry about the comment on an older post.<br /><br />I think the misunderstanding here has to do with need. Elves make great works, for certain, and take their time doing it. But they have little drive to "make" the way humans do, and also don't have any attachment to industry. Elves bake to eat and enjoy life. Humans bake to survive. <br /><br />Where's the drive? <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-38748055355859955312014-06-03T11:11:33.900-04:002014-06-03T11:11:33.900-04:00I've always had a different view of elves. It&...I've always had a different view of elves. It's not about how long you live that leads to innovation - its how many generations you turn over. Humanity proceeds at a breakneck pace because we turn over three or four generations per century. Each generation begins with a foundation of the previous generations' work and knowledge, and builds on top of that as a basis. Elves, on the duncanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02674146186467164275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-74799810944156168042014-06-01T22:40:37.471-04:002014-06-01T22:40:37.471-04:00In my D&D-But-Not campaign universe, Elves are...In my D&D-But-Not campaign universe, Elves are primarily motivated by two factors. <br /><br />Reverie and Returning.<br /><br />The latter of the two first.<br /><br />The Elves aren't from here. They don't, by and large, belong in this realm of existence. They were once fae, faerie, the bright folk, the good neighbors, and they became stranded in this plane of ours, where time is Adam Dicksteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04840144928096089178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-88284719685637564732014-06-01T15:57:17.397-04:002014-06-01T15:57:17.397-04:00I like the points made about the Elves and Dwarves...I like the points made about the Elves and Dwarves being in a state of decline. There's that sense that the Elves "already did that" when compared to Man -- why do Men have cranes and steam engines to do work for them?<br /><br />Men don't live as long and they want to see it done while an Elf is content to see a river carve out that same rock for him. Sure, it'll take a ditherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636135891319380870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-84938318650319110752014-06-01T14:30:05.068-04:002014-06-01T14:30:05.068-04:00Alex has a point in that if elves (and dwarves, fo...Alex has a point in that if elves (and dwarves, for that matter) live so long, why haven't they invented higher technologies and taken over the world by now? But these are fantasy races and as Konsumterra says they are likely divinely created with a certain role/function/fate which makes them different from ordinary humans. This sort of plays into the OD&D race-as-class where both racesPriddayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17988483528642234280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-51784139210504842762014-06-01T12:29:53.426-04:002014-06-01T12:29:53.426-04:00Good answer, and I don't know.Good answer, and I don't know. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-89634258418898886922014-06-01T12:29:15.008-04:002014-06-01T12:29:15.008-04:00I seem to remember the line "Their time is at...I seem to remember the line "Their time is at an end" being in there somewhere. I've always felt like they're the sort of people who leave the building an hour before Last Call. I hate those people. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-61763660032477238632014-06-01T11:29:14.303-04:002014-06-01T11:29:14.303-04:00The elves of Middle Earth are packing it in to get...The elves of Middle Earth are packing it in to get away from humanity for some reason.<br />JDJarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691101939920824546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-50423919187089830792014-06-01T10:33:16.730-04:002014-06-01T10:33:16.730-04:00Well they did explore and found nations in a bruta...Well they did explore and found nations in a brutal wilderness. Their architectural achievements above and below ground were as massive and extensive as they were beautiful. And all the while opposed both directly and insidiously by actual-and-accounted-for evil god. <br /><br />What is there to match them in brooding Tyre or garden-girdled Babylon?rainswepthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06165059567790555748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-90376932458069301742014-06-01T09:12:03.555-04:002014-06-01T09:12:03.555-04:00So we're the savages circling the desert of th...So we're the savages circling the desert of their Mad Max future? Man, that makes humans so much cooler!Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-2989721695695147942014-06-01T09:11:01.531-04:002014-06-01T09:11:01.531-04:00I'm not a big fan of spreadsheets period, but ...I'm not a big fan of spreadsheets period, but the idea of elves being similar to kabbalistic angels is an interesting idea. I'm going to have to look into that.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-16692560906436752132014-06-01T08:31:44.013-04:002014-06-01T08:31:44.013-04:00Elves aren't humans they have different priori...Elves aren't humans they have different priorities. It could be as simple as elves may have 1000 years of development in those poems, songs,and such each generation because that's what they care about. <br />Elves are often attributed to being more magically in tune than humans and often a people in transition, often a decline. The elves we are typically dealing with in RPG aren't in JDJarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691101939920824546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-91650970851040584822014-06-01T01:49:44.237-04:002014-06-01T01:49:44.237-04:00alex's idea of realism is spreadsheets and pai...alex's idea of realism is spreadsheets and painfully boring - how about like kabbalistic angels they are incapable of innovation and change like humans take for granted - pretty much doing same thing they were at the earliest times with possibly necessity or new threats stimulating themKonsumterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170560484656800416noreply@blogger.com