tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post7505642845596368350..comments2023-06-15T11:59:39.572-04:00Comments on DYVERS: In Search of a VillainDyvershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-48276613276169849912014-01-06T18:11:34.782-05:002014-01-06T18:11:34.782-05:00I seriously dig all of that sir. I seriously dig all of that sir. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-51506816158069806522014-01-06T18:10:50.549-05:002014-01-06T18:10:50.549-05:00Who brought up the kids at Columbine? Also, there ...Who brought up the kids at Columbine? Also, there is no corollary between them and Conan the Barbarian, You're really stretching there. <br /><br />"I don't know to what extent it matters in an RPG how a villain got to be where they were" <br /><br />For me it matters not one bit. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-51422878243094167052014-01-06T18:08:48.406-05:002014-01-06T18:08:48.406-05:00While I'm not trying to be dismissive of you, ...While I'm not trying to be dismissive of you, I really don't care how they got where they were in life. I'm not interested in the academic discussion of what led them to become evil and how that colored their future actions. In a world of grays they were each clearly evil and provided the sort of clear cut example I wanted. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-15862891557804742392014-01-06T11:47:51.501-05:002014-01-06T11:47:51.501-05:00My player went insane with rage after an undead-br...My player went insane with rage after an undead-brownie (lich). They were willing to ride to the ends of the earth to finish him off. I think it was his size and my nasally intonation of his voice barking commands to his hoard of zombies (including one of the characters. <br /><br />I also have found that brothers, mothers, and sons of vanquished villains make instantly great villains.Jake Jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08371291986998800114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-18046794112607658092014-01-06T11:38:54.315-05:002014-01-06T11:38:54.315-05:00The kids at columbine? Well, they felt themselves ...The kids at columbine? Well, they felt themselves the constant victims of injustice at the hands of those society favors and so decided to avenge themselves upon that "proper" society. Frankly, from their own eyes they weren't much different than Conan going out there and wiping out a whole tribe of people because they killed off his tribe when he was a child. Yet when we are told Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05077116392950757591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-40940721496098043032014-01-06T11:38:36.318-05:002014-01-06T11:38:36.318-05:00What makes you think that Hitler, Pol Pot and Stal...What makes you think that Hitler, Pol Pot and Stalin had nothing identifiable about them?<br />You know, Hitler for instance was born just a regular guy though his parents were ridiculously strict and cruel. As a teenager he was forced to fight for his country in WWI, ended up buried under rubble starving to death for more than a week before being rescued. His country after losing the war was Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05077116392950757591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-59969136642351453882014-01-06T10:23:34.014-05:002014-01-06T10:23:34.014-05:00Thanks! I just like to make memorable campaigns an...Thanks! I just like to make memorable campaigns and the villain is often the starting point (along with some of the one-liners).Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15993271544652771274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-55163207479717676702014-01-06T08:44:36.516-05:002014-01-06T08:44:36.516-05:00Peter, you rock sir. Peter, you rock sir. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-55633426963537601422014-01-06T08:43:23.034-05:002014-01-06T08:43:23.034-05:00I'm glad that they can still frighten you, Mar...I'm glad that they can still frighten you, Mark, but these grey villains have long since lost their appeal for me. <br /><br />And you're absolutely right, Venger does a great, blood soaked villain. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-9211816142040244702014-01-06T02:54:39.172-05:002014-01-06T02:54:39.172-05:00Another campaign I ran years ago was a supers camp...Another campaign I ran years ago was a supers campaign. The players were a group of super-powered government agents and were called to the hostage situation. They needed to make it over to the building without being seen - the bad guys had threatened to start executing hostages if anyone came close to the building.<br /><br />They failed their stealth check. Next thing they know someone is tossedPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15993271544652771274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-62247704222924394502014-01-06T02:50:23.313-05:002014-01-06T02:50:23.313-05:00This is actually something I try to vary on in my ...This is actually something I try to vary on in my campaigns. There are certainly some villains that are doing bad things, but the motivations behind it aren't as cut-and-dry. I like those kinds of villains. Sometimes.<br /><br />In my last campaign, set in post-apocalyptic Arizona, I had a group of players who had initially been hired as some of the protection for a caravan of merchants Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15993271544652771274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-72654826629790817462014-01-06T00:17:36.476-05:002014-01-06T00:17:36.476-05:00Villains that are villains due to shades of grey a...Villains that are villains due to shades of grey are far more frightening to me though as you can see how they got there and perhaps see yourself in the same situation. Pure evil villains are more rare to me and probably in my games. Look at Venger Satanis' Liberation of the Demon Slayer for some (mature) but unadulterated evil!Mark Knightshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794651624205682912noreply@blogger.com