tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post2038860442238282777..comments2023-06-15T11:59:39.572-04:00Comments on DYVERS: [Trigger Warning: Racism] I Am PerplexedDyvershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-37818477191435617992015-05-22T12:02:18.856-04:002015-05-22T12:02:18.856-04:00I'm not trying to belittle your experiences. I...I'm not trying to belittle your experiences. I absolutely believe that you, and the people you care about, have endured hardship as a result of racial bias. Hatred from one individual to another is appalling, period; I don't need to know anything about culture or history to be nauseated by unprovoked violence.<br /><br />I hope you see my point, too. Within a social justice context -- in Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08759499976909882483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-50810562262049470162015-05-22T10:16:42.214-04:002015-05-22T10:16:42.214-04:00Yeah, electronic text so ofter fails to convey ton...Yeah, electronic text so ofter fails to convey tone. I took your jest for a serious question when I probably shouldn't have...tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06653459162258850269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-71330005938353132252015-05-22T08:48:08.015-04:002015-05-22T08:48:08.015-04:00Well said.
Also, I was just teasing because I kne...Well said.<br /><br />Also, I was just teasing because I knew who you were talking about but you responded with eloquence and now I feel like a chode for trying to be funny. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-71816309375174912742015-05-22T08:45:44.318-04:002015-05-22T08:45:44.318-04:00Charles McEachern wrote: "White bias against ...<b>Charles McEachern wrote:</b> "<i>White bias against black people has a societal impact. Black people are punished more harshly than whites for the same crimes (by a mostly-white justice system); the death penalty in particular exhibits a statistically astounding racial bias. Media portrayal of black people is abysmal -- there's more focus on rioting in Ferguson or Baltimore than thereDyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-15315374110639477742015-05-22T01:59:09.957-04:002015-05-22T01:59:09.957-04:00I did read what you wrote. I saw your claim that &...I did read what you wrote. I saw your claim that "racist" is a stronger word than "asshole." That's why I asked you to justify your assertion. <br /><br />"It has a power that calling someone a 'dick' can never possess because it describes an individual's belief that is far more meaningful both for society and their individual lives."<br /><br />WhiteAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08759499976909882483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-62725171423100176772015-05-21T19:09:45.457-04:002015-05-21T19:09:45.457-04:00Specifically I was referring to Charles McEachern,...Specifically I was referring to Charles McEachern, and the person you described from your college days, but also more generally a number of individuals that I have tried to argue with in the past on a variety of topics, not just racism (and you may have had a similar experience). <br /><br />Some people that I've debated with who may seem totally rational and even agree with me on a lot of tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06653459162258850269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-21034667942346316212015-05-21T17:04:55.020-04:002015-05-21T17:04:55.020-04:00Oh, I don't know about that. Charles (McEacher...Oh, I don't know about that. Charles (McEachern) and I agree on a lot of things. He's very clever and I think that he's speaking honestly from a position that he earnestly holds. That we disagree and that we're having a conversation about that seems a natural part of the human condition and not some sort of gibberish that we're babbling at each other. <br /><br />Also "Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-46648242769932773422015-05-21T15:38:50.261-04:002015-05-21T15:38:50.261-04:00You might as well give up Charles (Akins). You are...You might as well give up Charles (Akins). You are not even communicating with these people--you can't--you're not even speaking the same language. It might look superficially like English. They probably insist that they are speaking English, but in fact you are just shouting oddly familiar sounding words at each other that have totally different meanings in their 'English' than tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06653459162258850269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-13987989647039518322015-05-21T11:01:01.583-04:002015-05-21T11:01:01.583-04:00As an aside, I think it's weird arguing with s...As an aside, I think it's weird arguing with someone with my own name. Always have. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-1998064894757059852015-05-21T08:49:44.884-04:002015-05-21T08:49:44.884-04:00Did you even read my comment Charles or are you ju...Did you even read my comment Charles or are you just responding to what you hoped I would write? <br /><br />(1) I did not make an equivalence between "asshole" and "racist" and went out of my way to show that the term "racist" has more weight due to its impact on the individual and society. <br /><br />(2) Comparing racial epithets is a false tactic designed to Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-81036241279421919682015-05-21T01:47:29.909-04:002015-05-21T01:47:29.909-04:00It seems like you believe that "racist" ...It seems like you believe that "racist" is a stronger insult than "asshole" -- why? If their actions are the same, why is it worse to hate someone on the basis of their race than it is to hate them for the clothes they wear?<br /><br />In the case of a black person hating a white person, it's not. In both cases, it's one individual hating another individual for a dumb Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08759499976909882483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-49408014770765086182015-05-20T23:18:30.548-04:002015-05-20T23:18:30.548-04:00Charles McEachern Said: Being "racist" a...<b>Charles McEachern Said:</b> <i>Being "racist" against white people is like being "pantsist" against people who don't like to wear shorts. It doesn't play into a system of oppression, so the word has no power behind it.</i><br /><br />By this logic Charles an individual can be racist today but not in the future because a different race has come into power and now Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-57397805382518360482015-05-20T18:13:28.417-04:002015-05-20T18:13:28.417-04:00Racism is is a system of oppression based on race....Racism is is a system of oppression based on race. In this country, the victims of racism are nonwhite people. A racist isn't just someone who makes judgements based on race; it's someone who plays into that system of oppression.<br /><br />Being "racist" against white people is like being "pantsist" against people who don't like to wear shorts. It doesn't playAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08759499976909882483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-59864564060836905482015-05-20T09:38:26.158-04:002015-05-20T09:38:26.158-04:00Truth.Truth.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-42265794190888367012015-05-20T09:18:02.537-04:002015-05-20T09:18:02.537-04:00I'm not sure that this argument (Ie what is ra...I'm not sure that this argument (Ie what is racism) can be won. As long as people treat each other differently based on race it's racism and racist. As with most "Ism's and ist's" the harder a person argues that they are not a participant in that point of view the more material another person has to pick their argument apart. In other words the hard some one argues Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12793781986788315513noreply@blogger.com