tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post40810823094075584..comments2023-06-15T11:59:39.572-04:00Comments on DYVERS: Dungeons and Dragons Next News: Class GroupingsDyvershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-36883769941874082472014-01-25T08:42:05.760-05:002014-01-25T08:42:05.760-05:00You really didn't read this at all, did you?You really didn't read this at all, did you?Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-40593364216882352582014-01-25T04:52:32.095-05:002014-01-25T04:52:32.095-05:00Psychotherapie This article is part one of a seri...<a href="http://www.beziehungs-dynamik.de/" rel="nofollow">Psychotherapie</a> This article is part one of a series of five that explores interesting, unique and noteworthy trends in the mental health professionAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05457859669821887671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-87160117490411328702013-10-04T17:02:19.785-04:002013-10-04T17:02:19.785-04:00Fair enough.Fair enough.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-13931305885383390252013-10-04T15:50:34.884-04:002013-10-04T15:50:34.884-04:00Ah. You're talking tradition and fluff. Not ...Ah. You're talking tradition and fluff. Not interested. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15277544754611036152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-6247409052769415482013-10-04T09:30:42.745-04:002013-10-04T09:30:42.745-04:00". . . why is a Ranger in a different group t...". . . why is a Ranger in a different group than rogue? They both use weapons and light armour . . ."<br /><br />By that logic we should be discussing the Barbarian too. ;)<br /><br />No, the Ranger is in the warrior group for two reasons. First, the primary examples of rangers in fantasy literature are guys that go out and fight things in the wilds directly (for example, Aragorn from Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-22772205003591513112013-10-04T03:21:30.871-04:002013-10-04T03:21:30.871-04:00Wait - why is a Ranger in a different group than r...Wait - why is a Ranger in a different group than rogue? They both use weapons and light armour. Is it because one has bigger weapons and more hit points and the other has more skills? And by "battle" did you mean "D&D combat" or "formal army vs. army battle"?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15277544754611036152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-75461367360643748072013-10-03T11:25:32.638-04:002013-10-03T11:25:32.638-04:00Rangers would be warriors and thieves would be rog...Rangers would be warriors and thieves would be rogues or tricksters as Mike called them. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-7231093515947022882013-10-03T05:48:11.871-04:002013-10-03T05:48:11.871-04:00So... rangers and rogues *aren't* warriors, or...So... rangers and rogues *aren't* warriors, or *are*?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15277544754611036152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-8786610080507042022013-10-01T17:41:20.341-04:002013-10-01T17:41:20.341-04:00For me Warrior means a person who is engaged in or...For me Warrior means a person who is engaged in or experienced in battle. That's it. Just the actual definition of the word without any game terminology attached to it. The sub-classes are the place for the rest of those game definitions to come into play.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-20388949033978652102013-10-01T14:34:57.419-04:002013-10-01T14:34:57.419-04:00What does "Warrior" mean? Focused on we...What does "Warrior" mean? Focused on weapons? Can't use magic? Has the best armour class and HP? What does this leave for Rogue? Like a warrior, but trades HP and AC for skills?<br /><br />I don't really care how you group them, but characters fill roles (Striker, etc.) and are more and less difficult to play (in combat) under 1st-3rd edition. <br /><br />2nd edition Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15277544754611036152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-6800481415830874052013-10-01T06:48:29.830-04:002013-10-01T06:48:29.830-04:00See for me that would be a game that I would not p...See for me that would be a game that I would not play. <br /><br />While I enjoy certain aspects of Fourth Edition, and there is a lot there to have fun with, the way that they organized classes felt too much like a video game and took away from my enjoyment of the system. Going back to terms such as Martial, Arcane, Divine, Controller, Striker, Defender, and Leader creates a situation where I Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-67340892268005565682013-10-01T06:38:04.829-04:002013-10-01T06:38:04.829-04:00I think that they are trying to respond to the cri...I think that they are trying to respond to the criticisms that have come to them from the people who play the game. Unfortunately I think that a lot of those criticisms are provided from the Wizards of the Coast forum - where the trolls play - and you should never answer trolls. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-52537855282975471112013-10-01T05:38:22.533-04:002013-10-01T05:38:22.533-04:00You know what I'd like to see? Martial, Arcan...You know what I'd like to see? Martial, Arcane, Divine; Controller, Striker, Defender, Leader; Easy, Medium, Hard.<br /><br />Fighter - Martial, Defender, Easy<br />Wizard - Arcane, Controller, Hard<br />Rogue - Martial, Striker, Medium<br /><br />And any "balancing across the pillars" (i.e. don't worry that you're not as good in combat, you're great at skills!) has to Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15277544754611036152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-8649344739099258642013-10-01T05:33:40.627-04:002013-10-01T05:33:40.627-04:00Just awful. They keep trying to fix things that a...Just awful. They keep trying to fix things that are not broken, ignore horribly broken things, and refuse to learn anything from the successes of 4e.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15277544754611036152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-5553104439307618862013-10-01T04:12:59.876-04:002013-10-01T04:12:59.876-04:00I'm getting further and further away from it e...I'm getting further and further away from it every day ;)Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-27296006137287182982013-09-30T19:54:40.870-04:002013-09-30T19:54:40.870-04:00Sometimes I wonder what they are trying to get con...Sometimes I wonder what they are trying to get control of. At least in the early editions there were only suggestions where you could take the game. With "newer" editions they at first produced the need for accessories and wondered later that it wasn't compatible with the "masses". I'd hoped they got wise this time and at least tried to develop a basic game from which Jens D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18394303166081684904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-57424537427752014932013-09-30T18:27:28.963-04:002013-09-30T18:27:28.963-04:00Oh Anonymous, the groupings of characters under si...Oh Anonymous, the groupings of characters under singular classes is as good a methodology for the game as any other. <br /><br />By the way, thanks for commenting. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-3832949612791792912013-09-30T17:19:28.368-04:002013-09-30T17:19:28.368-04:00Soooo....groupings of classifications of character...Soooo....groupings of classifications of characters? This is braindead. <br /><br />They've renamed Rogues (again). HUGE step forward for the system!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-70053385060414158932013-09-30T14:10:01.636-04:002013-09-30T14:10:01.636-04:00By the way, has anyone else noticed how he's g...By the way, has anyone else noticed how he's getting eaten alive in the comments section on practically every part of this article?Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.com