tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post4835057748947747868..comments2023-06-15T11:59:39.572-04:00Comments on DYVERS: Answering Questions, Part 5: The Railroad in the SandDyvershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-45418327827208233902014-01-22T21:57:01.877-05:002014-01-22T21:57:01.877-05:00"People are responsible for their own actions..."People are responsible for their own actions. At some point, the players must assume responsibility for allowing themselves to chase every carrot put in front of them." +Alexis Smolensk<br /><br />That's the gold right there.Darcy Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02385198563203931754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-61334109755293392362014-01-20T23:08:11.898-05:002014-01-20T23:08:11.898-05:00You make a very good point Nate. You make a very good point Nate. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-40882248683815436152014-01-20T23:07:12.611-05:002014-01-20T23:07:12.611-05:00Listen, I'm trying to get worked up about this...Listen, I'm trying to get worked up about this topic and your comments, but honestly, I just don't care about this subject and had you not asked the question I wouldn't have touched on it. <br /><br />Let's just talk about something else that we each find more interesting. Heck, I'll even let you pick again and I'll do my best impression of Samuel L. Jackson and get right Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-10872799017475553222014-01-20T23:00:11.078-05:002014-01-20T23:00:11.078-05:00Sounds like a fun game to me.Sounds like a fun game to me.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-70031072230879704262014-01-20T22:59:46.533-05:002014-01-20T22:59:46.533-05:00I am too.I am too.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-56604245156533098082014-01-20T06:21:27.078-05:002014-01-20T06:21:27.078-05:00It's not railroading. Railroading robs players...It's not railroading. Railroading robs players of agency. They had all the agency in the world. That the GM dressed the scenario in such a way that they choose to follow the path he wanted them to take is not railroading, it's breadcrumbing maybe.<br /><br />Now, if they had, after he pushed their buttons, chose to break out of their expected behaviors and done things contrary to his n8mcdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03595908467212326227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-87964498869065915162014-01-20T01:25:13.992-05:002014-01-20T01:25:13.992-05:00I never said "putting up obstacles." Th...I never said "putting up obstacles." Those are your words, Charles. And obstacles can be overcome. Obstacles are not walls. Nor did I say "guiding encounters." Again, your words. When you answer a question, you really should try to answer the question asked. Not invent your own question, paste it over the one you've been given and then go ahead with propaganda.<br /Alexis Smolenskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10539170107563075967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-18361089167348729382014-01-19T23:13:42.503-05:002014-01-19T23:13:42.503-05:00I think I may disagree with all of you but I am no...I think I may disagree with all of you but I am not entirely sure. To me, this article merges to completely different almost opposite ideas instead of combining them.<br /><br />I run a lot a Storybox games. Sandboxes with a story.<br /><br />I know my universe(s) exceptionally well and I have placed big and little goings ons throughout them and every once in a while, if the players decide to go Adam Dicksteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04840144928096089178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-44409426037731233762014-01-19T12:29:45.559-05:002014-01-19T12:29:45.559-05:00In my mind, if the DM is "plotting a storylin...In my mind, if the DM is "plotting a storyline," he won't be able to help but railroad his players. Dammit, Jim, I'm a DM, not a novelist!<br /><br />Granted, some folks do both... but I'm curious as to how much they mix those roles.<br />Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10231423670489116607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-44970593508176592092014-01-19T11:28:41.047-05:002014-01-19T11:28:41.047-05:00And yet they aren't free to jump off the rails...And yet they aren't free to jump off the rails as the Dungeon Master purposefully puts up obstacles they're unwilling to overcome and drives them towards his predefined goal. <br /><br />The choice between overcoming their aversions and not is still there, but unless they choose to overcome their natural tendencies than the choice is not a meaningful one - and as you're well aware Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-30236363530319980732014-01-19T11:07:08.218-05:002014-01-19T11:07:08.218-05:00Wrong. It's not railroading if the players ar...Wrong. It's not railroading if the players are free to jump off the tracks at will. The players COULD have gone off in a different direction if only they had refused to be predictable. The fact that the ARE predictable, and John exploits that, DOESN'T make it a railroad.<br /><br />People are responsible for their own actions. At some point, the players must assume responsibility for Alexis Smolenskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10539170107563075967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-25681125566637582072014-01-19T11:06:50.847-05:002014-01-19T11:06:50.847-05:00Truth.Truth.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-58254241600505122752014-01-19T10:36:25.760-05:002014-01-19T10:36:25.760-05:00Of course, right here "He sits down at his de...Of course, right here "He sits down at his desk and begins to prepare the campaign, plotting out a storyline of major events that should happen and minor events that would be good to occur as immersion points." is where it all went bad!Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10231423670489116607noreply@blogger.com