tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post7716388042551203487..comments2023-06-15T11:59:39.572-04:00Comments on DYVERS: What's All This OSR Taliban Noise?Dyvershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-65430219266712796322016-07-27T04:16:13.818-04:002016-07-27T04:16:13.818-04:00Perhaps all the local players in Venger's area...Perhaps all the local players in Venger's area refused to play anything but 4E? Speculation.<br /><br />I've personally never met any gamers who refuse to play anything besides 4E, but I have met gamers who refuse to play anything besides AD&D 1E in one case and Pathfinder in two cases.Dennis Laffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03053699552003336733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-31138739442434284242016-07-27T04:15:48.629-04:002016-07-27T04:15:48.629-04:00Perhaps all the local players in Venger's area...Perhaps all the local players in Venger's area refused to play anything but 4E? Speculation.<br /><br />I've personally never met any gamers who refuse to play anything besides 4E, but I have met gamers who refuse to play anything besides AD&D 1E in one case and Pathfinder in two cases.Dennis Laffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03053699552003336733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-15629947312526780602014-06-20T19:19:20.910-04:002014-06-20T19:19:20.910-04:00"I'm of the opinion that 4th edition almo..."I'm of the opinion that 4th edition almost killed D&D. It absolutely killed my interest in it..."<br /><br />That's...that's quite the faulty (from a Logic 101 standpoint) generalization there.<br /><br />"...almost stopped me from roleplaying altogether."<br /><br />Gotta agree with Our Host. How does one disliked ruleset affect, well, anything as it Justin S. Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14881276106170920830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-85726782012670152102014-06-18T14:52:49.350-04:002014-06-18T14:52:49.350-04:00" It absolutely killed my interest in it for ..." It absolutely killed my interest in it for two years and almost stopped me from roleplaying altogether."<br /><br />I simply don't understand. How could a new edition of the game stop you from role-playing? You had other games available if you didn't like the new one - including older versions that you presumably liked - so how could this one stop you? Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-404840330050136652014-06-18T14:47:04.017-04:002014-06-18T14:47:04.017-04:00Two things: (1) Fourth Edition only lost in the sa...Two things: (1) Fourth Edition only lost in the sales categories that we can observe (i.e. retailer surveys through ICv2) <i>after</i> the announcement of a new edition. Prior to that it consistently ranked as the number one selling role-playing game on the market. (2) Where was Pundit's consultation status announced? I've often wondered how they announce such things. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-87664723890923698532014-06-18T12:09:38.709-04:002014-06-18T12:09:38.709-04:00Well, I'm of the opinion that 4th edition almo...Well, I'm of the opinion that 4th edition almost killed D&D. It absolutely killed my interest in it for two years and almost stopped me from roleplaying altogether.<br />Venger Satanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447932700800930510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-22810186406630397792014-06-18T12:07:31.653-04:002014-06-18T12:07:31.653-04:00The OSR didn't influence 5e because we're ...The OSR didn't influence 5e because we're a strong lobbying group. It influenced 5e because we're right: when D&D veers towards an old school style of play, it's demonstrably better than styles that are opposed to it. The demonstration is in 4e's failure. Sure, it attracted a few new people, but then so would a stack of old newspapers with D&D scribbled on it. 5e Venger Satanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447932700800930510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-14308041268632390602014-06-18T07:08:15.950-04:002014-06-18T07:08:15.950-04:00It's all wankery. You play what would be consi...It's all wankery. You play what would be considered an OSR game. Good on ya! But to say my game is better than yours and having some huge diatribe about it, is just plain wankery. No matter what banners they're waving for what game, they need to calm their asses down and simply promote the hobby.Sean P. Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15321498422576454847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-87404191438112194882014-06-18T06:31:53.243-04:002014-06-18T06:31:53.243-04:00Ah, good. I got concerned there for a minute. :)Ah, good. I got concerned there for a minute. :)Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-71575533696687491532014-06-18T06:30:59.730-04:002014-06-18T06:30:59.730-04:00True story good sir.True story good sir.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-28788973334965286742014-06-17T21:37:19.611-04:002014-06-17T21:37:19.611-04:00Charles Akins writes: "I've noticed a lot...Charles Akins writes: "I've noticed a lot of OSR bloggers declaring 5e a win for the cause, but is it?"<br /><br />This is an interesting question that I've seen a number of people write about and we may not have a clear answer for several years, if at all. This also depends on how you define "win". For instance...<br /><br />1) Hypothetical #1: 5e is very popular evenRaging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-6576189814922296282014-06-17T20:44:42.012-04:002014-06-17T20:44:42.012-04:00No, I will still drop by here; I have you on the f...No, I will still drop by here; I have you on the front page of my blog as "Somebody Worth Listening To". What I am doing is cutting my participation in forums; I have no time or energy for it - I can paint and write, or I can get kicked in the teeth.<br /><br />- chirinechirine ba kalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089801259918671141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-68748157401233834032014-06-17T16:28:41.244-04:002014-06-17T16:28:41.244-04:00That's why I typically don't go to forums ...That's why I typically don't go to forums either.<br /><br />"Chirine has left the building, and he ain't coming back. If you want to come along for the ride in my basement, you're certainly welcome to - see my little effort at a blog, if you would."<br /><br />Wait, does that mean you won't be coming by my blog anymore? That would really suck.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-80424802213869498412014-06-17T16:27:21.591-04:002014-06-17T16:27:21.591-04:00I've noticed a lot of OSR bloggers declaring 5...I've noticed a lot of OSR bloggers declaring 5e a win for the cause, but is it? We can infer that the market rejected Fourth Edition - though there is an argument to be made that this didn't truly occur until after the new system was announced and the Playtest was released to the public - but can we honestly say that the a fractured movement such as the OSR actually contributed to it'Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-10512703307209841722014-06-17T16:22:53.290-04:002014-06-17T16:22:53.290-04:00I thought they took away your razor the minute you...I thought they took away your razor the minute you started looking at OD&D books? Or is that just my wife being a jerk again?Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-44978019497257293262014-06-17T16:21:45.582-04:002014-06-17T16:21:45.582-04:00Ha!
That would be the strangest terrorist threat ...Ha!<br /><br />That would be the strangest terrorist threat to ever cross the FBI's radar!Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-41521771130985836862014-06-17T16:21:00.325-04:002014-06-17T16:21:00.325-04:00You're absolutely correct JDJarvis.
Oh, and a...You're absolutely correct JDJarvis.<br /><br />Oh, and as a side note, thank you for introducing me to the term "Godwin's Law." Before you brought it up I had never heard of it and it makes complete sense. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-45463763899251382522014-06-17T16:19:15.785-04:002014-06-17T16:19:15.785-04:00Getting along is relatively easy until you run int...Getting along is relatively easy until you run into someone who refuses to show the common respect that each of us deserves. That individual pops up in every community - especially online - and is always the reason why conversations turn sour. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-85846320902695833402014-06-17T16:14:59.568-04:002014-06-17T16:14:59.568-04:00Absolutely correct, Tom.Absolutely correct, Tom.Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-24525346948384406792014-06-17T16:14:12.803-04:002014-06-17T16:14:12.803-04:00The problem I find that leads to this sort of name...The problem I find that leads to this sort of name calling is extremism. Extremism whether you're talking about politics, religion, or games is always a detriment. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-31400705361726394782014-06-17T16:11:44.154-04:002014-06-17T16:11:44.154-04:00Very true. Very true. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-59416306783752235952014-06-17T16:10:59.976-04:002014-06-17T16:10:59.976-04:00Me too. Me too. Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-77216506768479281022014-06-17T16:10:19.021-04:002014-06-17T16:10:19.021-04:00Damn! I have no tattoos so I lose all arguments. :...Damn! I have no tattoos so I lose all arguments. :(Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-62129513959858469362014-06-17T16:09:38.149-04:002014-06-17T16:09:38.149-04:00That does lend a bit of perspective to the whole t...That does lend a bit of perspective to the whole thing, doesn't it?Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5124770754805827894.post-46957794042316310032014-06-17T16:06:17.841-04:002014-06-17T16:06:17.841-04:00So very true Giuseppe!So very true Giuseppe!Dyvershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032957275132817602noreply@blogger.com